WHAT!

it's about time for california to start straight up crushing late model corvettes and camaros!

Just an observation from a guy who lives in SoCal...  Don't fret too much over the notion of many Vettes and Camaros getting tossed into the compactor because of street racing.  More likely, it will be Hondas and their ilk.

If you go to court for racing, and the speed are greater than 25 mph over the limit, your insurance company will probably put you into the high risk group, and raise your rates.

further, most insurance policied have a clause that excludes coverage while racing. That means if you have an accident, and it's found that it happened while street racing, you, your car and your possessions are not covered. If you are sued because of damages from that accident, and your insurance excludes you from coverage, start selling the house and everything else to pay for the suit. In many states, if you can not pay the settlement ( the money you were sued for) they can actually tap your future earnings. In other words, have an accident during a strret race, and you stand a chance of giving a large portion of your income (that you haven't even earned yet) to the guy who sued you.

Police, local and state government, and insurance companies have been getting tougher and tougher on street racing. Besides be an activity that puts everyone in the area in danger, the risks are far too great. Winning or losing the race is of no importance if something goes wrong.

The answer here is private tracks for kids to race on, and very stiff penelties for those who demonstrate that they don't have the mentality of a clam by racing on the street.

It will take people to volunteer some time to man th etrack, and sponsorship from local business, and a commitment from local law inforcement to be present at the meets. It's not an easy thing to do, but it's not impossible either. The largest obsticle is insurance. Most insurance companies do not cover a street car when involved in a race, even on a track. NHRA tracks offer $10,000.00 coverage while racing, but that it, and 10 grand is a drop in the bucket if there are injuries.

That's right, where are all the tracks? There is something wrong with our societies that allow motorsports all over the TV, car maker's commercials that have a huge emphasis on performance, tire or oil or other autoparts companies advertising in the same way, movies with fast cars driving fast, etc. and the authorities expect everyone to be completely uninfluenced and never break the speed limit then come down on you like a ton of bricks if you do.

I too am against street racing and do it whenever the opportunity arises.

The problem of some "local" tracks is they don't have street meetings often enough and charge like a wounded bull for 3 or 4 trips down the track for your $50. And if you crash, -no insurance. At least if I crash on the street there's a huge chance my insurance co won't know I was racing and I'm covered.

"IT"S ABOUT TIME"

are u nuts...

street race  crush car---  DUI  you keep car   drive on a spended lic.  u keep car   .. hit a person crossing the strret  u keep car...  DUI the 2nd time  u keep car...  rob a bank/store/ect  u keep car...

U STREET RACE  OR ARE THOUGHT of RACING  YOU LOOSE CAR>>>

HHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

this is the same as pot dealer and a killer

pot dealer gets 20 years min..  killer gets 5-10   same thing,..  stupid laws

razoo   two cars on 495 going  90mph( thats rush hour speed on this road)  can loose their cars  (crushed) if this law goes all over...  so two vettes could be crushed because at the time they passed the cop they where side by side...

this law needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! stupid  stupid...law...

and where are all this tracks  or roads to set up as tracks??????? 

this law is not the answer....

the answer is to let people open tracks(town/cities stop saying no.. because of noise, groups of people ect..) 

but again that never happen cause all this people that bitch about the street racing will bitch if they have to hear cars running down a track all weekend...  yuppy scum can't have it both ways... 

they just want it gone  no street racing and no noisey track either... they want it all.... 

open tracks and they'll come  if you don't charge 50 buck a day... 

club's could take turns "hosting"  weekend (help running the track) and keep cost down....  and they'd do it..  but getting past the weekend noise problem never happen because people don't want it "near them" 

kinda like the person that bitches about lost jobs in this country but buys a car made else where..(my jobs safe so why should i care if auto workers are laid off,  thats their thinking...) same with the street racing/track thing  ... they don't want to DEAL with it by letting track open( not in my noise space, ear shot)  it's just go else where!!!!!!!!!

the people running the cities and towns should stop and think before they cave in to this people and help SOLVE the problem that THEY had a hand in causeng... by forcing tracks to close because of the noise...this same people didn't want to hear....

but logic and  govenment are world apart so I won't hold my breath..

RAzoo..

hello.. my point was that other crimes that are just as bad or worse are a slap of the hand to this new law!!!!!!!!!!!

I never sais "I" street raced!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND I"VE tried to get use of (OR BUY) land/roads ect.. 

but the cities/towns reject the idea.. and if I buy land  they (cities/town) won't let you put a track on it.... remember you need to pull a building permit!!!! 

those people are in the way of helping solve the problem  ....... and untill they change they ways/rules of land usage  ..there will be street racing..

so untill you know me don't tell me i'm not part of the solution or have the mentality of a clam!!!!!!!

"street racing is a serious crime with the potential to injure or kill many innocents"  AND SO IS  D  U   I  but they are not as tuff on that as taking your car and crushing it(ya i read you don't thing crushing is a good idea)but that IS what they plan on doing!!!

my point was/is that in this land we live in the punishment doesn't always fit the crime...  ex.  if crushing you car and revoking your lic. is O.K. for street racing then  D U I should be worse...(it's not like any one can say they didn't know what they planed on doing at a bar!!)

thats the point.  never said street racing a good thing  just said that this law as it is writen needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!

a better law would be to ervoke their lic. for a year and then if you get a ticket for any(within a year)  moving violation  speeding/driving rec..ect  you loose it for two years.

so in closing

YOUR TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"You wanna act like you've got the mentality of a clam, then you should be treated as such."

Was not directed at you. The word "you" is being used collectively, both times.

Again, this thread is about Street Racing, not DUI, those are two different arguement's, and I agree with you about DUI. IMO the fines and penelties should be much stiffer. I know a fellow who who has been working on a machine/computer that might help.

His wife and son were killed by a drunk driver who is serving two 20 year sentences. The way this machine works is: When you enter a bar, you put your drivers license into the machine, and it keeps the license as ID, and give you a barcoded card.  When it's time for you to leave, you insert the card into the machine, at which point you also have to enter a series of numbers that the machine flashs for you. If you fail to enter the series of numbers correctly, or quickly enough, you can not get your license back. You get three chances to retrieve your license, if you fail all three times, you can't try again for 12 hours, at which time you have to go through the process again.

It not a perfect solution, but at least he's trying something.

BAck to street racing...

I know what you are saying about the public not wanting a drag strip in  their back yard. I've run into similar obsticles. I and a group of guys recently got together and purchased 1050 acres of land in rural Georgia for the purpose of building a drag strip, and auto cross track, a motocross track, and a mud bog. We are running inro more brick walls than I can name. We have issues with the state, the county, locals, insurances, fire, EPA, OSHA, ADA, and on and on. We hired a small team of lawyers who are well practiced on handling these issues.

We NOT looking at building a track for NHRA top fuel dragsters. We're planning a "local" track mostly for street cars, and modifidieds, and alky cars. THe resistance is stiff, but we're working on it.

With that said, there is still NO EXCUSE FOR STREET RACING AND I STAND BY WHAT I SAID EARLIER. You race on the stree and get cought, you lose everything. THe laws need to have big teeth.

By continuing to street race, or by condoning it, you are adding fuel to the fire.

I don't disagree with you, I actually agree with you. Most real street racers are not condoning street racing, they are actually against street racing. They would rather be at a track any day, than on the street. The underground street racing that is going on is more organized, done in industrial areas where it is a ghost town @ early morning hours of the night, but you can not get away from the fact that if you do crash you will not get any life saving medical attention like you would at a track. When someone has died, it has been a street racer not the innocent public at large, but still, someone died, and that fact does not change.

What I do disagree with is making convicted felons out of traffic offenders. If you get caught street racing it should be an infraction not a felony. If they hit and killed someone while street racing, then they should be prosecuted for manslauter.

 I'm not sitting back and bitching about things, I'm doing all I can to correct the problem.

I think that is great that you are pro action instead of pro bitching.